19 Responses to “Domain Picks Dropping on Dec 6th 2013”

  1. Ron says:

    Are these real drops, that won’t be pulled back later, seems like it’s the same company dropping them all, and they are much to smart for that?

  2. manos says:

    All names listed are dropping tomorrow and can not of course be pulled back from pending delete status

  3. Mark sometimes you just have to let go.
    You have one of my domains in your list: FilmMaking.info
    But I also see a few I would like to have.

  4. “… drop them now right when .info seems to be gaining some steam …”
    .Info are gaining some steam? where? lol … sorry, but I don’t see that at all.
    As far as I see, if we exclude a few German-speaking buyers (see for ex. Gold.info, sold last June for 10k, and “gold” is a huge keyword) and some deals among domainers, mainly during specific organized auctions, .info market is almost non-existent.
    Well, you already know what I think about .info … and, what’s more, soon some more junk extensions are coming … 😉

    • Mark says:

      I guess you’re right Andrea, I didn’t mean they were selling for anything significant, I just meant I was seeing some sell and I didn’t used to see many sales, and with all these new TLD’s on the horizon maybe .info will hang on the coattails. But I suppose the bigger reality is Gold.info at $10k and Yummy dropping all these words because they didn’t sell them, I have one .info and it’s probably not as good as many of these I see drop and I am not regging them so that is where I am at with them…

      • “I have one .info and it’s probably not as good as many of these I see drop and I am not regging them so that is where I am at with them…”
        Good to hear Mark, I mean good choice, I don’t have any .info and at the moment I’ve no intention to buy any. 😉
        I guess Yummy realized that those names weren’t so … yummy … lol 😀

  5. .info are being sold.
    I have sold a few this year all from $2000 and up to $5000.
    Non of these have made it to any domain name sales report.

    They don’t have .com prices but .tv, .me, .co are sold also for similar prices.

    • Mark says:

      I am so confused lol…

    • Konstantinos,
      I never said that there are no .info sales, but that, as you can read above “As far as I see, if we exclude a few German-speaking buyers (see for ex. Gold.info, sold last June for 10k, and “gold” is a huge keyword) and some deals among domainers, mainly during specific organized auctions, .info market is almost non-existent.”
      I think your sales, which I can’t verify, since they are not public, are among the two categories I mentioned earlier.
      Furthermore, and you can check this by yourself, many sold .info domains are now parked, which means that .info market is mainly domainers-driven and not end-users driven, and therefore very illiquid.
      Personally I think that a market with very limited end users participation is not healthy, and easy to manipulate, and this is true also for other markets, not only for domains.
      No offense, nothing personal against you, but maybe you are a bit biased cause in your portfolio there are many .info … 😉

      • P.S.
        As regards the other 3 extensions you mentioned, IMHO, .co is just a heavily marketing-driven cctld, with very few end users (Colombian companies mainly use .com, or com.co), while .tv and .me are very specific extensions, sort of niche markets for specific end users.

        As for .info value, well, let’s say that, on average, maybe it’s 1% of corresponding .com.

        • manos says:

          Imo is easier to sell a single word .info than a 2-3 word .com, because single word is easy to find while the combo .com needs exposure.
          We do not know the business plan of Yummy, maybe they sold enough with profit and decided to drop the rest and start something new.
          I also sold some .info this year at an average of $500 but took back my full capital at .info x 4 and have about 50 relatively good single words rest.
          I tend to agree with Mark that .info will be probably gain with new tlds as it is 4 letters and many new are > 5, it is descriptive, generic and will have a new identity. It is psychological in a way, the 4 letters tld was long for 13 years but with all new 5-6-7-8 letters it appears short :) .

          • Hi Manos,
            – “Imo is easier to sell a single word .info than a 2-3 word .com, because single word is easy to find while the combo .com needs exposure.”
            I don’t think so, just check sales stats and you’ll see it’s true the opposite, by a wide margin.
            Check DNS, Sedo, GoDaddy, etc, sales stats.
            Exposure does not mean anything here, the fact is that a .com better fits the need of end users.
            Also .co has a lot of (marketing) exposure, but it still remains what I said before.
            .Info can be good for info sites or similar uses, but they are not considered interesting by end users selling products/services (a local exception is represented by German-speaking markets).
            – “We do not know the business plan of Yummy, maybe they sold enough with profit and decided to drop the rest and start something new.”
            Exactly, we don’t know their business plan, and how much they paid for them, etc, so maybe what you are saying it’s not true, and they just struggled to sell them, so they decided to drop all those names.
            Furthermore, remember that for some people it’s hard to admit having being wrong about something …;)
            – “I also sold some .info this year at an average of $500 but took back my full capital at .info x 4 and have about 50 relatively good single words rest.”
            Good for you, though I can’t verify this.
            – “I tend to agree with Mark that .info will be probably gain with new tlds as it is 4 letters and many new are > 5, it is descriptive, generic and will have a new identity. It is psychological in a way, the 4 letters tld was long for 13 years but with all new 5-6-7-8 letters it appears short”
            Well, let me tell you that IMHO .info is not descriptive, cause it does not describe anything, it’s just supposed to give “info” about something, a keyword that can be descriptive, and generic.
            The function of a gtld is not that of being descriptive, unless it’s targeted for a specific users base.
            Keywords can be descriptive.
            Generic is not a plus, it’s how normally gtlds should be.
            New identity? lol … good luck with it.
            With new gtlds coming, .info identity is not gonna change, there will just be more confusion.
            As regards length, well, .net and .org are way better and shorter.
            And other 3 letters gtlds are coming, like .web.
            It seems that people who owns many .info are trying to justify their purchases ex post …

  6. Andrea here are the countries of my last 6 .info sales all between $2000 and $5000 and all to end users.
    Russia
    Australia
    UK
    USA
    Hong Kong
    France/Qatar

    So no german countries and no domainers.

    I don’t appreciate adding “which I can’t verify” to anything I or Manos say about .info sales.
    If you want proof I can send you escrow.com screenshots.

    • Konstantinos,
      Let me repeat what I said before, which I think it’s pretty clear “As far as I see, if we exclude a few German-speaking buyers (see for ex. Gold.info, sold last June for 10k, and “gold” is a huge keyword) and some deals among domainers, mainly during specific organized auctions, .info market is almost non-existent.”
      That doesn’t rule out that, out of all .info sales, some are to other countries.
      My expression “which I can’t verify” is valid for all non-public sales, not only for yours.
      There is nothing personal here, so please don’t be so touchy or “spring-loaded”, as people say in the States. :)
      As far as I know, your 6 sales breakdown by country is not statistically representative of the whole market, and this is quite easy to verify for public sales, which are a big chunk of deals here.
      Out of approx 6 mln outstanding .info domains and out of overall .info sales, 6 domains are not statistically meaningful.
      Your sales are just your sales, not the whole market, so IMHO you cannot extrapolate market trends from your personal experience, unless you have a huge portfolio (when I say “huge” I’m talking about at least 6 figures numbers).
      Just check also how many sold .info are now parked.
      Generally speaking, I don’t consider sales those which are not public and therefore verifiable, cause undisclosed figures can be easily manipulated/inflated.
      The same way DNJournal does not include in its stats sales that are not verifiable.

      Bottom line: for the reasons I’ve already mentioned here, and some more, .info is not an extension I’m interested to invest in.
      Just my view though.

  7. Andrea what domains are you selling?

    Yes it is not an extension you are interested to invest into yet you draw very wrong conclusions that my actual facts contradict. You say the market is non-existent, I say that I sell. But again you don’t consider my facts as facts. Well there is not much to say here.

    I don’t have 6 .info sales. I have 100+.
    Those 6 are the latest I could find in my tax records.

    None of my sales this year have made it to any report. And my total sales (com org biz info us) are somewhere in the 6 figures in Euro.

    Also have you checked the Sedo report? Most of their domains are not reported! They sell 700 and report 250 lately. Escrow.com said that they close more deals in a week that others report in a year. And I believe them.

    Also a sale is still a sale. I don’t see anyone complaining because a domain was sold at namejet, snapnames or godaddy just because it is mostly domainers bid no these venues.

    Finally there is an Afilias report that is pretty old but still it can’t be very different than today.
    .info registrations by country:
    USD 48%
    Germany 11%
    UK 6%
    France 5%
    Canada 4%

    That a certain country has a pretty large percentage doesn’t make the whole extension german.

    • Konstantinos,
      You are taking it personal, but I’m not talking specifically about you, I’m referring to the whole .info market.
      I’m considering your facts, but your facts are just a (minority) portion of the whole market, not the market itself.
      As I said, I consider official, verifiable data, not rumors and similar stuff.
      “Also a sale is still a sale.” I never said the opposite, you are totally out of context on this point.
      A sale is a sale, wherever it has been closed. But it has to be verifiable.
      If sales are on tax records they are verifiable, if they are public or otherwise documented they are verifiable, I think it’s easy to understand.

      Figures you are mentioning relate to registrations by country, not to sales by country.
      And we are talking about sales, not registrations.

      And this is all for me on this topic.
      Thank you, have a good time. :)

  8. Andrea you never told me what you are selling.

    My facts are a minority of course but it is a minority of the actual market. My facts are not some strange exception.
    Here are some more facts. Some other of my .info sales:
    USA
    ITALY
    Germany
    USA
    USA
    UK
    UK
    Serbia
    USA
    USA
    JAPAN
    Hungary
    Dominica
    Germany
    Austria
    usa
    usa
    germany

    And of course sales are related to registration numbers. India and China don’t have many registrations and of course not a lot of sales.

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